To start the ball rolling, a thought on the Sunnydale High disaster of 1999 - has anyone considered the idea that it might have been deliberately planned to assassinate Mayor Richard Wilkins III? The Wilkins family seem to have a total lock on this office for more than a century, what if someone wanted them out, or an attack staged to tighten Wilkins' grip on the town went horribly wrong? It may be relevant that Deputy Mayor Allan Finch was assassinated by the mysterious Faith Lehane (a known associate of Wilkins) only three months earlier. What do we know about Wilkins' political rivals?
I don't recall this coming up on alt.conspiracy.sunnydale, but I missed a lot of posts in the early years so it's possible it was discussed then. It certainly hasn't come up recently. Anyone got any thoughts?
I don't recall this coming up on alt.conspiracy.sunnydale, but I missed a lot of posts in the early years so it's possible it was discussed then. It certainly hasn't come up recently. Anyone got any thoughts?
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Date: 2006-02-28 01:50 am (UTC)On the one hand, we're talking about a mayor and not POTUS. If the Wilkins family were made up of honest politicians (not that I'm saying they were, I'm just saying "if"), the most someone can hope to gain from removing Mayor Richard Wilkins III from office is an open seat.
However, given the sudden build-up of infrastructure (including a hydroelectric damn and International Airport) in the seven years prior to the town collapsing into a sinkhole (I promise to expound on this at a later date), I'm wondering if the Mayor's office wasn't heavily involved in graft. Given the size of the projects in question, I can only imagine that the bribery could be very lucrative. Then I could see assassination as maybe something worth trying.
I know that some of these projects were built after Wilkins's disappearance, but given the size of them, they had to be in the works while Wilkins still held office.
I was wondering if you have evidence that Mayor Richard Wilkins III was involved in corruption? It would help me a great deal in my research as well.
By the way, apropos of your post, did you see Without a Trace (http://www.cbs.com/primetime/without_a_trace/) the other night? The plot of the episode bore eery similarities to the Wilkins scenario. Instead of a mayor, it was a U.S. Congressman; and instead of a high school graduation, it was a college graduation. They even had "the student protest that got out of hand" that resulted in the nearby science building getting destroyed in a fire started in one of the classrooms? They, of course, concluded that U.S. Congressman had been involved in illegal gambling instead of construction.
Considering that Wilkins has gone missing since this incident, I thought it was striking.
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Date: 2006-02-28 01:56 am (UTC)One thought on infrastructure - is there any information on the town's water supplies, other than the river? I've wondered about pumping from an underground reservoir e.g. a water dome (similar to an oil dome) triggering the collapse, but I can't seem to find much information about the town's utilities.
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Date: 2006-02-28 02:11 am (UTC)While I don't question the extensiveness of the sewer network, I do question the dimensions on the blueprints since they seem to indicate that they'd be as large as the underground aqueducts in Rome in some places. I'm hoping to get some confirmation about this.
Also, there was definitely an electric power plant in town, because it was knocked off line a few weeks before the town collapsed in teh sinkhole.
There was also a hydroelectric dam that was quite large, but I can't seem to find any paperwork on the state or local level indicating when and where it was approved. All I can tell you that the first mention I saw of it was in February 2002 in the local Sunnydale newspaper (there are microfiches available at UCLA, but I haven't been able to find anything online). I haven't been able to find any indication that it even existed before that time, and that's going by the local paper. And as far as I can tell, the federal and state governments aren't aware it ever existed at all!
Hope this helps.
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Date: 2006-02-28 05:41 am (UTC)Hydroelectric dams don't just provide power for the local community. (You think Boulder City needs a dam that big?) Power from the Sunnydale dam was helping keep the lights burning in L.A. and San Francisco.
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Date: 2006-02-28 11:30 pm (UTC)For example, there are no USGS maps indicating the presence of a dam prior to February 2002. Suddenly, the hydroelectic dam at the edge of the town limits appears from nowehere on a map dated August 2002. According to the documentation, there was a survey to check and make sure the dam was not damaged in the series of earthquakes that rocked the town the preceding May.
However, I've been unable to find any supporting documentation indicating the when, where, why, and how the dam built. There are no historical records in any archive that I've searched and, as I've said, surveys of the region prior to the August 2002 map indicate that there's no dam there at all.
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Date: 2006-03-01 03:59 am (UTC)It was renamed, without any fanfare, as part of the city's attempt to distance itself from the Wilkins name after the extent of the corruption rampant in Richard Wilkins III's administration became known.
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Date: 2006-03-01 06:01 am (UTC)The absence of the structure from the 7.5 minute map is particularly critical, as small ground features (a corral less than 500sq ft in extent in the Union Mill Quadrangle comes to mind) are mapped with meticulous precission.
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Date: 2006-03-01 06:32 am (UTC)no subject
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Date: 2006-03-02 12:09 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-02 12:56 am (UTC)One: We need to know when the Sunnydale Hydroelectric Dam was built. We have no indication anywhere even beyond the USGS maps the when, where, and why of it.
Hypothesis A: The Hydroelectric Dam had, in fact, been approved and built between the 1930s (when such a large structure as the one you see in the August 2002 Sunnydale Press could have built) and August 2002. Yet, its very existence was hidden. The question is: Why?
Hypothesis B: The dam in question is actually a much newer construction that was built, somehow, without anyone leaving a trace. Considering how many people would be needed to build it, you would think there'd be a record somewhere, yes? That says to me that a lot of money got spent to keep people very, very quiet about its existence. Its presence was only revealed broader public when the people in power became concerned about whether it was safe in the wake of the May 2002 earthquake.
However, the issue of keeping it a "secret" obvioulsy became moot after February 2002, when references to it suddenly appeared as a result of investigations into the the Enron-California energy crisis that happened during 2001.
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Date: 2006-03-02 05:40 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-02 12:49 am (UTC)The town has existed for more than a century and a large hydroelectric dam such as the one photographed in the August 2002 issue of the Sunnydale Press reporting that the final survey of the dam showed that it had been undamaged in the earthquake of May 2002 could not have been built before the 1930s.
Therefore, some record of the dam at least being built or showing that it actually exist prior to August 2002 should be available somewhere. I merely bring up the USGS map as one piece of evidence showing a lack of evidence for the dam's existence. However, coupled with no indication of its existence in any public or private document prior to February 2002, and coupled with the lack of photographic evidence of its existence prior to August 2002, I fund it's sudden "appearance" to be highly suspect.
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Date: 2006-03-02 05:37 am (UTC)I'm not going to get into an expertise wank over this- obviously there is no way for either of us to verify the other's knowledge of mapping error rates, nor experience in using USGS source materials (although I'm willing to bet that only one of us has ever spent much time reading 1856 GLO survey notes). I will say that, in my experience, the absence of a landscape modification as large as a hydroelectric dam, especially in an area of intense mapping due to seismic activity, would not be of a class of information manipulation decribable as mere "error."
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Date: 2006-03-02 12:39 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-02 08:21 am (UTC)I actually checked out the USGS site, and the all maps for the Sunnydale area were last updated in 1995 (not 1973 as you claim)
The map showing the dam is:
TCA1254 Lake Wilkins 343000N 1195230W 1995
Contrary to popular opinion Sunnydale Dam (or Wilkins Levee) is not on the Sunnydale River. It's on the Santa Zeny river, about 20 miles NW of the city of Sunnydale itself.
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Date: 2006-03-02 08:04 pm (UTC)I am, however, surprised to find any USGS 7.5 map has been updated at that late date, as new surveys on that grid ceased decades ago in favor of the International (1:1,000) scale maps.
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Date: 2006-02-28 02:44 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-02-28 02:53 am (UTC)Compare:
Roger Tribby (http://www.joshlyman.com/onetimes1.html) (scroll down)
Richard Wilkins III (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Wilkins)
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Date: 2006-02-28 06:44 am (UTC)I wonder if they're branching out. This guy was a California plastic surgeon before he got caught doing illegal stuff....check out the resemblence, even with the beard.
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Date: 2006-02-28 09:11 pm (UTC)no subject
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