Sunnydale and the Military Part Two
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sdaleconspiracyOK, I thought the story of the Sunnydale Army Supply Depot was just another example of the Wilkins family bilking money from federal coffers. Turns out there may be more too it than that.
I want to stress up front I don’t know the full implications of what I’ve learned. It could be nothing, it could be deliberate disinformation or it could be something more. You’ll have to evaluate that on your own.
As I mentioned before the bunker under the UC Sunnydale campus was officially decommissioned in 1992 (after never actually being used for anything) but Army depot was left open. I could never figure out what the base did. So I started researching what kinds of supplies were being funneled through the base. It’s been slow going. My FOIA requests have been getting the cold shoulder lately (I think I may be ruffling a few feathers). But I have been able to get a hold of few civilian contract workers assigned to bases in the Southwest US.
According to them, most of what they shipped to Sunnydale was surplus and/or outdated weapons. Nothing really out of the ordinary. That is until around 1999.
According to three civilian employees I found, several large shipments of top of the line weapons were sent to Sunnydale. This was enough gear to fully outfit at least two platoons. Even odder a large amount of medical equipment (enough to outfit a 50 bed hospital) was shipped into Sunnydale the summer of 1999. The base infirmary only had eight beds.
In addition, one said gear marked ‘research supplies’ was also sent into Sunnydale. Again I only got this from one source and it as yet unconfirmed. Take it with a grain of salt.
According to my sources these shipments kept up between the summer of 1999 and the beginning of 2000 before being abruptly cut off in May of 2000.
Now I’ll be honest, this could just be some base commander stocking up, a typical screw up in the Army supply chain or the supplies could have just been routed through Sunnydale on their way somewhere else. Unfortunately I’ve as yet been unable to locate any assigned to work the depot in Sunnydale to confirm if the shipments came in or what happened to them after they came in.
None of this proves anything and I want to stress I haven’t been able to find any official confirmation of what was stored at the Sunnydale supply depot (which in and of itself is very telling). All I have are a few eyewitness accounts from civilian cargo haulers.
But a week ago I had long talk with a friend who monitors activity out at Area 51. I offhand mentioned my research into military involvement in Sunnydale and the odd supply shipments during 1999 and 2000 and he became very excited. This morning he sent me a list of nine flights between Area 51 and Sunnydale during 1999 to 2000. There may have been more but those were only ones his group could confirm.
He stressed that the fact that he was able to get confirmation in the form of flight records and radar logs might mean that flights were deliberate disinformation. Most of the air traffic in and out of Area 51 is classified and (according to him) a surprisingly large amount never shows up on commercial radar.
Now he has no way to know what was on any of these planes. But in the twelve years he and his associates have been tracking activity at Area 51 those are the only flights he’s seen go into Sunnydale and they just coincidently coincide with a major increase in the supplies going into the Sunnydale Army depot.
As dsample pointed out on the LA Darkness thread there is a possibility the military was testing some kind weapon that created a wide area of darkness and they may have selected Sunnydale because of some unique geological or other abnormality. Perhaps the incident at the 99 graduation ceremony was a natural phenomenon that drew the military’s attention and they began researching the weapon in 1999 which led to the test in LA a few years later.
Does anybody have any contacts with DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency: http://www.darpa.mil/)? The odds are any such research project run in Sunnydale would have been run under their auspices.
I want to stress up front I don’t know the full implications of what I’ve learned. It could be nothing, it could be deliberate disinformation or it could be something more. You’ll have to evaluate that on your own.
As I mentioned before the bunker under the UC Sunnydale campus was officially decommissioned in 1992 (after never actually being used for anything) but Army depot was left open. I could never figure out what the base did. So I started researching what kinds of supplies were being funneled through the base. It’s been slow going. My FOIA requests have been getting the cold shoulder lately (I think I may be ruffling a few feathers). But I have been able to get a hold of few civilian contract workers assigned to bases in the Southwest US.
According to them, most of what they shipped to Sunnydale was surplus and/or outdated weapons. Nothing really out of the ordinary. That is until around 1999.
According to three civilian employees I found, several large shipments of top of the line weapons were sent to Sunnydale. This was enough gear to fully outfit at least two platoons. Even odder a large amount of medical equipment (enough to outfit a 50 bed hospital) was shipped into Sunnydale the summer of 1999. The base infirmary only had eight beds.
In addition, one said gear marked ‘research supplies’ was also sent into Sunnydale. Again I only got this from one source and it as yet unconfirmed. Take it with a grain of salt.
According to my sources these shipments kept up between the summer of 1999 and the beginning of 2000 before being abruptly cut off in May of 2000.
Now I’ll be honest, this could just be some base commander stocking up, a typical screw up in the Army supply chain or the supplies could have just been routed through Sunnydale on their way somewhere else. Unfortunately I’ve as yet been unable to locate any assigned to work the depot in Sunnydale to confirm if the shipments came in or what happened to them after they came in.
None of this proves anything and I want to stress I haven’t been able to find any official confirmation of what was stored at the Sunnydale supply depot (which in and of itself is very telling). All I have are a few eyewitness accounts from civilian cargo haulers.
But a week ago I had long talk with a friend who monitors activity out at Area 51. I offhand mentioned my research into military involvement in Sunnydale and the odd supply shipments during 1999 and 2000 and he became very excited. This morning he sent me a list of nine flights between Area 51 and Sunnydale during 1999 to 2000. There may have been more but those were only ones his group could confirm.
He stressed that the fact that he was able to get confirmation in the form of flight records and radar logs might mean that flights were deliberate disinformation. Most of the air traffic in and out of Area 51 is classified and (according to him) a surprisingly large amount never shows up on commercial radar.
Now he has no way to know what was on any of these planes. But in the twelve years he and his associates have been tracking activity at Area 51 those are the only flights he’s seen go into Sunnydale and they just coincidently coincide with a major increase in the supplies going into the Sunnydale Army depot.
As dsample pointed out on the LA Darkness thread there is a possibility the military was testing some kind weapon that created a wide area of darkness and they may have selected Sunnydale because of some unique geological or other abnormality. Perhaps the incident at the 99 graduation ceremony was a natural phenomenon that drew the military’s attention and they began researching the weapon in 1999 which led to the test in LA a few years later.
Does anybody have any contacts with DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency: http://www.darpa.mil/)? The odds are any such research project run in Sunnydale would have been run under their auspices.
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Date: 2006-03-12 01:04 am (UTC)One thing to keep in mind is that Vandenberg AFB isn't very far from Sunnydale. (about 40 miles by air, 60 by road.) If someone was trying to covertly ship something to VAFB, (something top secret for a spy satellite launch maybe?) they might try make it look like it was something innocuous being sent to Sunnydale.
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Date: 2006-03-12 07:28 am (UTC)I can't be the only one who thinks this is a little bit much for a coincidence!
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Date: 2006-03-12 08:25 am (UTC)Agree with Don about military planes and civilian radar. Have to ask, again with Don; why use the civilian airport at Sunnydale - which was several miles out of town and survived the collapse - when it'd probably be logistically simpler to use the nearest Air Force base? To be honest, short flights sound more like a training exercise or disinformation than anything important.
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Date: 2006-03-12 08:29 am (UTC)Can anyone confirm this?
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Date: 2006-03-12 09:15 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-03-12 09:19 pm (UTC)The field could never have handled large fixed wing aircraft. Although depending on the size a single engine Cessna or equivalent might have been able to land there in an emergency. It’s unlikely it could have taken off from there.
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Date: 2006-08-19 09:24 am (UTC)Why don't we just invite Osama into the White House and give him the nuclear football?